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forward in civilian court, the obama administration treated the efforts of certain vocal republicans to troll the president into engaging in a lawless departure from established process and precedent as exactly that, as trolling on and a half of a ridiculous and illegal proposition. >> he will not be treated as an enemy combatant. we will prosecute this terrorist under u.s. law. united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. this is absolutely the right way to go and the appropriate way to go. and when it comes to united states citizens, it is against the law to try them in military commissions. >> and it matters that the white house is treating the idea of holding an american citizen outside of the american legal system as what it is, which is crazy and unacceptable. and it matters that appears to be where americans stand on the issue too. when asked just last week in the midst of the aftermath of the boston bombing, with the images and videos of the horror there, the top of everyone's mind, which worries you more, the government will not go far enough to investigat
disbrea disagree with the obama administration's decision to rule out enemy combatant status for this suspect at this time. >> we are moving up to the boat he was actually laying down on the side of the boat, one leg out, one hand out. as we got closer, he sat back up. >> he just sat up. he's moving, flailing about, quite a bit of movement. >> the suspect's in custody. >> tonight, dzhokhar tsarnaev goes to court at his hospital bedside. and there is more. the magistrate says he is lucid. adam housley is live in boston with the latest. adam? >> reporter: yeah, gret a. in fact, in the hospital behind me, there is significant security, downstairs and throughout the hospital. the u.s. marshal service has taken over the security situation of him specifically. they have marshalls by his room, in the hallway, all standard procedure when the macials take control. before that, it was local law enforcement and the fbi. so the marshalls will be in charge of him, until he is well enough to leave here. once that happen, he will fly out via helicopter, like whitey bowlser did. they feel li
where bomber two had placed his knapsack. >> i strongly disagree with the obama administration's decision to rule out enemy combatant status for this suspect at this time. >> when we are moving up to the boat he was actually laying down on one side of the boat. one leg out, and one hand out, and when we got closer, that's when he sat up. >> he just sat up. moving about. quite a bit of movement. >> suspect in custody. >> tonight dzhokhar tsarnaev goes to court at his bedside. and there is more. they say he is lucid. adam. >> in the hospital behind me there is significant security not only downstairs but throughout the hospital. the u.s. marshals service has now officially taken over the security situation of him specifically. they have marshalls stationed by his room, in the hallway where he is. all standard procedures when the marshals take control. before the fbi was doing that. marshals will basically be in charge of him until he's well enough to leave here. we are told once that happens he will likely fly out via helicopter to a different hospital. it's the best way of takin
to guantanamo. in any case the obama administration has shown absolutely no interest in that idea and every indication is that he will be tried as a criminal defendant in an american criminal courtroom. >> lindsey graham who himself is a military attorney, has spent 30 years in the u.s. air force, he insists he wants tsarnaev to be tried in american civilian court, but that didn't preclude at least for now naming him an enemy combatant to try to question him to see if there are other bombs out there, other individuals who may be involved. sort of this imminent threat notion. is he on sound legal ground, lindsey graham, when he says, yes, he'll go before a civil trial, but at least for now name him an enemy combatant so he can be questioned? >> well, the obama administration has established a policy of a so-called public safety exception to the miranda rule where for some period of time, it's not entirely clear how long, a suspect can be questioned without miranda warnings and that apparently is what's happening here. again, it's complicated somewhat by the fact that we didn't know exactly w
the policy of the united states since 9/11, including the bush administration, and the obama administration, for terror suspects apprehended within the united states to be treated in the federal system. there are two brief exceptions to that under the bush administration, even though two exceptions were treated in the civilian system. >> let me jump in. because senator graham was saying on fox just last night, or today, i'm fine with him getting tried in federal court. this is just about the initial designation. >> right. it's very difficult to actually designate somebody under the laws of war as an enemy combatant and not give them the rights and then try to drop them into the civilian system. you set yourself up when you do that. >> no -- >> let m point, jay. you set yourself up for all kinds of extensive challenges. there isn't a problem here. what you have i think is an enormous amount of public support right now for the job that law enforcement has done. and for senators who are not immediately involved in this thing, and many whom aren't even lawyers or been inside a court of law for
there are serious issues regarding interrogation. president obama sent a signal of the administration's intentions last night. >> it's important that we do this right. that's why we have investigations. that's why we relentlessly gather the facts. that's why we have courts. >> meanwhile, his family is condemning and praising the brothers. his mother, in russia, claims they were set up and controlled by the f.b.i. >> i am really sure, like 100% sure that this is a set-up. my two sons are really innocent and i know that my -- neither of them never, never have talked about whatever they're saying about now. >> their uncle in maryland blamed religious extremism. >> religious extremism, whoever was able to brainwash them, a friend of mine, he started being his father. he called me confused. his uncle who always been there. i think -- >> police say after an exchange of gun fire, dzhokhar was captured hiding under a tarp in a boat. thermal images helped police locate the suspect. [ cheers and applause ] the arrest sparked spontaneous appreciation on the streets. >> usa! >> an emotional ceremony of relief
has only just begun, and the decision by the obama administration, not to designate him as an enemy combatant is upsetting several republicans. >> i have been informed that the obama administration has indicated this suspect in boston will not be treated as enemy combatant. i strongly disagree with the obama administration's decision to rule out enemy combatant status for this suspect at this time. >> let's bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin, joining us from new york. can or should a u.s. citizen be formally given this enemy combatant status? what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as the bush administration has in the past and
between the obama administration and some of the republican -- sorry about this and what that means is the obama administration has said the criminal justice system can make this work, the criminal can handle national security risks like this person, terrorists have been prosecuted, moussaoui. this administration is committed to using the american courts there are some critics, like senator mccain, like senator graham, who say that's too big a risk, that we have too many protection, we have too many abilities on the part of these defendants not to answer questions that put all of us at risk but i don't think there's any chance the obama administration is going to change its mind and use something other than the criminal justice system for this case. >> because a lot of people are raising questions, they had apparently some explosive devices, some weapons, rifles, hand grenades, stuff that's pretty expensive. where did they get this material? where did the money come from that helped them purchase this material? that's why some of these republican senators, lawmakers, are asking for
church. the obama administration knew about it and actually reported about in the state department religious freedom, which is still the gold standard for human rights reporting. but at the time it was happening they said nothing and did nothing. so on our watch this has happened. the bush administration, two-thirds of the christians in iraq were driven out. we have it in the book about conversations we had about secretary rice at the time saying please protecting. again, we had 100,000 troops on thground and she said no, we cannot get involved. it's sectarian here. meanwhile, the united states had just installed a shiite government in iraq and was negotiating on the path of sunni leaders to get sunni appointments in the government. so it just rang true. >> it does seem as i listen because i'm being educated on this, some rights are more equal than others, right? in other words, if we're talking about universal concept or standard of let's say women's rights, then we can speak out against them. but it seems like there's been a shining a we're doing that with regard to religious lib
hearing on the obama administration's controversial drone program. lawmakers wanting to know more about who our government is targeting and killing. a retired air force colonel set to testify joins us live ahead. jon: the boston tere owe attacks may complicate efforts to a bi-partisan immigration reform proposal. the bombing suspect received asylum in the u.s. more than ten years ago. republican law mangers like senator rand paul are urging caution on changing immigration laws right now. senator paul writing to senate majority leader harry reid, quote we should not proceed tpwh-l we understand the specific failures of our immigration system. why did the current system allow two individuals to immigrate to the united states from a chechen republic of russia who committed acts offer to reus eupl. were there any save guards? could this ha been prevented, dores the immigration laws before prevent this? jay carney was asked about this at the press wraoefg. >> do you think rand paul has a point at all that what happened in boston reflects something wrong with the current system of immigration
plots. so that's why i've been urging the obama administration to hold him as potential enemy combatant to continue the dialogue apart from the criminal case. >> reporter: on the other hand this has potential to become a political hot potato. the service of the democratic senator carl levin says the suspect should not be held as enemy combatant and says he opportunity see the evidence that tsarnaev is part of organized group and not a legal basis for him to be held as enemy combatant. back to you. >> alisyn: thank you. >> clayton: do the boston bombing suspect expose flaw of the immigration system? chuck grassley brought this up on capitol hill. >> we don't know the immigration status of people who terrorized communities in massachusetts, when we find out, it will help shed light on the weaknesses of our system. >> clayton: that raises a largeer question. could it reshape the immigration reform? ask texas congressman louie goehmert joining us from philadelphia. nice to see you. >> thank you. great to be with you. >> clayton: let's dive deeply in the question. we look at the individuals
agencies to tell you before they ask you a question you don't have to answer it. the obama administration has taken a radical approach to the miranda rule by coming out of nowhere with this 48 hour rule that doesn't exist in any statute and no court has permitted it. >> going to regret it? >> i think they will. bass opposite they start using it there will be no stop to it. >> shepard: investigators want to talk with the wife of the older bombing suspect. are lawyer says she won't be able to tell them much because she had no idea he was up to anything until she saw he was a suspect on television. that part of the story is next. updating our breaking news. authorities in canada are expected to announce multiple arrests relate toad what they're calling a major bomb plot. we're now getting conflicting reports about whether new york city was on a target list. sources telling fox news, at laos one man was arrested in quebec, another in ontario. that were in communication with people in the states and overseas and had ties to radical groups. part of the plot was to blow up a bridge in canada whe
during your open periods. >> the obama administration has chosen to survive the suspect in the boston marathons in a civil trial. did they do the right thing? 90 seconds, sir. >> i believe that president obama and his justice department are completely committed to ensuring that justice is done in this case. all voted president obama last week. he said that justice would be done in this case. if in the opinion of president obama and his justice department, the proper place for prosecution is here in the federal district court system of the state of massachusetts, i believe that the court system here in massachusetts can provide that kind of a venue in order to hear this case. i defer to president obama. i defer to his justice department. if in their judgment, this is the proper place in order to conduct that trial. >> thank you, sir. mr. lynch, 90 seconds. >> i think we have sufficient laws in our criminal system to prosecutor terror its, number two if you will. i think the effort to classify baptsant. nemy com i've been to gitmo and i've been involved in the process of trying to find
. what happened if h si inside the obama administration about whether to to the fact he was working for the cia and how to get them out. what happened was initially the obama administration didn't have the pakistanis he was working for the cia. they said he was diplomat. president obama said he's a diplomat. it was only after weeks and weeks as the situation spiraled out of control increasingly, where one of the wives swallowed rat poison because she became a new martyr and was convinced raymond davis to be treated well. ultimately the obama administration went to the pakistani government and sabrina davis is with the cia. there's got to amount of the country. in march of 2011, he was ultimately released from prison after what was blood money was paid, where the guns that the families were paid over $2 million in a massive swipe away his charges and he was released to the united states and sent to an. the entire episode was a microcosm of how fraught u.s. tech any relations have become. >> what kind of work was he doing for the cia impact of and? >> he was doing a number of differen
-existing conditions are being told basically by the obama administration, sorry, we didn't plan for you. mr. gardner: and i understand the money republicans would propose to spend to address this -- mr. wrung: and i understand the money the republicans would spend on this issue, the obama administration wants to spend on advertising, advertising the exchanges, dvertising how the obamacare will work. >> this is the helping sick americans act. tomorrow we're going to defund the preventive care act, the slush fund in the affordable care act that has been going for everything from paths and bike paths and advertising campaigns and spaying and neutering dogs, instead we're going to move that money, defund it, pay down about $8 billion on the deficit and we're going to move money into these high-risk pools that are run by the states that are going to take care of sick americans. mrs. roby: and we look forward to that debate in the next two days. we are closing in on the end of our hour, we are just joined by mr. griffin, the gentleman from arkansas and as you know, we are talking about tonight, this is ht
phase of the case begins. the very complex legal process. an obama administration official telling nbc news tsarnaev will not be given a miranda warning when he's physically able to be interrogated after receiving medical treatment. instead, the official says the government will invoke a legal rule known as the public safety exception. that will allow investigators to question tsarnaev without first advising him of his right to remain silent and be afforded legal counsel. president obama used his weekly address today to praise law enforcement and those involved in tracking tsarnaev down. >> americans refused to be terrorized. ultimately, that's what we'll remember from this week. that's what will remain, the stories of heroism and kindness, resolve and resilience, generosity, and love. >> authorities caught up with the suspect after a tip from a watertown resident. he was hiding in a boat parked outside a home. he is now in a boston hospital and nbc's ron allen is joining me from there. ron, with a good afternoon to you, let's get the very latest on his condition. are you getting word
that jihad. no one can stop it. >> reporter: in a letter to obama administration officials, two top republican members of congress questioned why tamerlan remained at liberty in this country to commit the boston attack. and whether the bureau could have done more to watch them. >> we can't be politically correct. we have to say, has radicalization extended into the chechen community? >> reporter: the fbi says there was little they could do to legally monitor tamerlan tsarnaev once they -- initially determined he was not a threat. but one question congressional investigators have is, having gotten that initial tip from russian intelligence, why didn't anybody at the bureau notice those radical youtube postings on the internet? lester? >> we're going to get into that right now, michael isikoff. don barrelli is a former senior fbi official, now the chief operating officer of a security consulting firm. don, good morning. great to see you. >> good morning, lester. >> should have, could have. those questions always asked following an attack like this. >> yep. >> this older brother was on
, or even any more likely to be suspicious as bad people. by the way, the bad guys, the obama administration has dramatically increased deportations as you know of the real criminals who we tend to be able to find and deport when necessary. >> mr. walsh? >> jonathan, these two guys, jonathan, these two guys weren't just losers. they were part of radical islam. they were radicalized. >> that's right. >> this is a threat we've known has existed for a number of years. >> it has nothing to do with the immigration bill. it's irrelevant. it's not being rushed through as you said. the bill has been pending for white a whi quite a while. >> jonathan, it's sophisticated mindsets like yours that get americans killed because you don't recognize we're at war. >> joe, i think i can call you joe now since you're not in congress anymore. you know, that's kind of -- that's the kind of level of debate saying it's people like you who cause us to be hit by terrorists. that's what lowers the whole tenner of the conversation. makes it very hard to have reasonable, good policy-making. the emotion you apply to the
to suggest the attack was indicative of a broader plot. >> is the obama administration still convinced from the tsarnaev brothers acted alone? pat buchanan debates on that subject. and coming up next the sole surviving suspect in the marathon bombing will not be held as an enemy combatant. we will debate the legal aspects of this as "hannity" continues. (little girl) no! saw her first day of school. (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) designed for your most precious cargo. (girl) what? (announcer) the all-new subaru forester. (announcer) designed for your most precious cargo. love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. at tyco integrated security, we consider ourselves business optihow?rs. by building custom security solutions that integrate video, access control, fire and intrusion protection. all backed up with world-class monitoring centers, thousands of qualified technicians, and a personal passion to help protect your business. when your business is optimized like that, there's no stopping you. we are tyco
the attack was indicative of a broader plot. >> is the obama administration still convinced from the tsarnaev brothers acted alone? pat buchanan debates on that subject. and coming up next the sole surviving suspect in the marathon bombing will not be held as an enemy combatant. we will debate the legal aspects of this i'm just saying, why does the enterprise get all the good missions? [ bang, alarm blaring ] here we go. on-screen. i'm very sorry. i think i ran into you. it's space. you couldn't go around me? don't worry. i have esurance. their modern tools let me customize my policy. are you okay? 'cause you look a little banged up. you look pretty jacked up, man. yeah. that's my face. oh. [ male announcer ] see "star trek into darkness" in theatres may 17th. go to esurance's facebook page for a chance at free movie tickets. go to esurance's facebook page at tyco integrated security, we consider ourselves business optihow?rs. by building custom security solutions that integrate video, access control, fire and intrusion protection. all backed up with world-class monitoring centers, thousands
lunch -- excuse me, dinner with his teenage cousins and the obama administration has never explained why this kid was killed. he was the son of aulaqi, but his dad had been killed two weeks earlier. this tells the stories of war lords who do the operations for u.s. and al qaeda militants and yemen and elsewhere. and really at the heart of it is the fact that one of obama's enduring legacies when it comes to foreign policy, he has solidified assassination as an essential component of policy. >> they can do it in the shadows, as you pointed out. in the book, i would say there hasn't been a lot of public resistance aside from people like you and others in the press. how have they done this without facing much resistance? publicly or inside the government from people who should be stepping up and saying, wait a minute, we can't kill u.s. citizens without due process? >> right, i think there's no question that if john mccain had won the election in 2008 or mitt romney had won it in 2012 that liberals would be screaming about this stuff and saying, you know, that -- there would be this thing,
before a military commission perhaps even at guantanamo bay in cuba. the obama administration has insisted that criminal trials can be just as effective and tsarnaev is an american citizen which could complicate putting him in a military court. the next step is filing formal charges which could come within the next day or so with an initial appearance before a federal magistrate. if he's not well enough to move, that could still be done in the hospital. lest lester? >> we want to get the latest on the conditions of the surviving suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev. ron allen is outside of the boston hospital where he is being treated. ron, what's the latest from there? >> reporter: good morning, lester. we're not hearing anything officially from the hospital staff here. they are deferring all questions to the fbi because this is of course an extremely sensitive manner. we believe he's in serious condition. we believe he was wounded at some point in the process because the man who found him found him under a tarp covered in blood was the way his condition was described then. sources have al
to be looked at seriously. >> judge jeanine: the obama administration has indicated they are going through the public safety exception but you all indications are that they want to prosecute this guy in the federal court. having said that when the police came out and said that, you know, this is no longer a danger here. haven't they in essence destroyed the public safety exception by saying everything is okay, everybody can come out, all is well? >> here is the problem. they made that statement and then about ten minutes later they engaged the defendant. the accused. so all was not well. and i understand the police were making the best effort. i think they did a heroic and fantastic job. i'm not sure that would be dispositive. i think the whole idea of mirandizing this individual is a mistake from the get go. i have done a lot of work with the justice department, worked with treasury. i hate that they are going down this route but looks like that is the road they go down. >> judge jeanine: it does seem that they will go through the federal criminal justice system. having said that is ther
in america's newsroom. martha: several republican lawmakers are now questioning the obama administration's decision not to treat the boston bombing suspect dzhokhar tsarnaev as an enemy combatant. he will face a civilian trial in criminal court. civilian complaint is revealing details from the carjacking to the shootout in police. listen to this from the documents released yesterday. the man point ad firearm at the victim, the person who was carjacked, did you hear about the boston explosion? and i did that. the man removed the magazine from his gun and showed the vipg tim it had a bullet in it and reinstated the magazine and stated, i am serious. new york city mayor, rudy giuliani helped lead the nation out of 9/11 terror attacks and we i will be remembered for that going forward and rely on you for your expertise how you break down these things. a lot of people bush for enemy combatant status. the white house doesn't want to go there. is that a wise decision on their part. >> i don't think so. martha: why? >> the white house is a in state of denial and has been that way since major has
are being security purposes. i hope the obama administration will allow us that option that exists in our law. they have a very bad track record here. >> the white house telling reporters it would try the younger brother in federal court and that no options were considered. >> this is a matter that's decided by the department of justice and the attorney general, obviously at the top, the whole national security team supports this decision. >> military trial was not an option in this case because the 19-year-old is an american citizen. even if it provided more information about his brother who was killed last week. shep. >> shepard: catherine herridge in washington. catherine, thank you. that criminal complaint details the suspect's serious injuries. gunshot wounds to the head, the throat, the legs, and the hand. investigators say it appears the suspect shot himself as swat teams closed. in a possible attempt to kill himself they say. today, officers said he was in very bad shape by the time they took him down. >> moving up to the boat, he was actually laying down on the side of the boat.
you think, why you think this and they say they never got a response. >> the obama administration has okayed the suspension of the suspect's miranda rights. is that a temporary suspension? >> reporter: yes, by law it is. it's called the public safety exception to the miranda rule. normally you have to tell someone they have a right to remain silent and if you don't, then you can't use anything they tell you in court. so that's why the miranda warning is given. but there is an exception. you don't have to do it if there's a possible threat to public safety. and here obviously there's a concern about whether there are potential accomplices. investigators say they haven't found any. or other explosives. they say they haven't found any of those either but that's what they want to ask him. and this exception probably begins to expire the moment you invoke it so it's probably no good for more than a day or two but nonetheless they can do that. afterwards they'll have to give him his miranda warning and say whether he'll continue to answer questions. the justice department says even in very
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. a policy decision the obama administration has made. he was a american citizen and naturalized last september and now a federal law, the national defense authorization act of 2012 that says american citizens cannot be tried in military commission. so it's not -- this debate is not a question about where he should be tried. the republicans who say he should be treated differently, their claim is that while they understand the civilian trial will go forward, they think he should be treated for now as an enemy combatant and questioned without any question about his rights, without any issue about whether information he gives would be used in his trial, and then turn back over to civilian authorities. but, clearly, the justice department will have none of that. that's not how it's going to go. >> he's in a boston hospital under heavy guard and serious condition including a gunshot wound to the throat but he is responding to some questions to a team the federal investigators in writing. any indication as to what he is saying or maybe perhaps just what they are trying to get out of him at
brings me here today is i have been informed that the obama administration has indicated this suspect in boston will not be treated as an enemy combatants. i strongly disagree with the obama administration's decision to roll out and in the combat the status for the suspect at this time. i believe such a decision is premature. it is impossible for us to gather the evidence in just a few days to determine whether or not this individual should be held for questioning under the law of war. the decision by the administration to try this individual in federal court is a sound decision. it is the right decision. military commission trials are not available in cases like this. i wrote the 2009 military commission act. i have been the judge advocate for over 30 years, along with the help of many colleagues. we created a system for foreign terrorists. we purposely excluded american citizens. i have all the confidence in the world in article 3 courts at the federal level. they do a terrific job. i have confidence in our military commissions system. the decision by the administration not to proce
the obama administration's argument that it was a state secret. the court ordered the cia to respond to freedom of information requests about targeted killing. a few days later, three obama officials told the daily beast that the drone program will move from the cia to the defense department. that could increase accountability and transparency. the president also responded by saying this at the state of the union. >> i will continue to engage congress to ensure not only that our targeting, detention and prosecution of terrorists remains consistent with our laws and system of checks and balances. but that our efforts are even more transparent to the american people and to the world. >> but it looks like that effort is not getting very far. the administration refused to even send a witness to testify and answer questions at today's hearings. the chair of the hearing told us the legal and policy questions surrounded targeted killings require a public debate. once again, it looks like a debate the white house would rather skip. joining us now to discuss the government's obligation to def
. there's a possibility it also brings them together. a week ago, president obama's administration put the president of chechnya, accused of human rights abuses, on a secret list of people not allowed to come to the united states that angered the kremlin. it angered vladimir putin, his ally. now they have in some ways, a common enemy if there's a connection at all to the broader chechen radical movement. >> peter baker, white house correspondent for "the new york times," thank you so much for your time. >>> i want to bring in wnbc's jonathan ,b├Ędienst. we're getting news that terror suspect, tamerlan tsarnaev who was killed in a shootout this morning is reportedly flew in and out of john f. kennedy last year and was out of the country for six months. investigators do not know if tsarnaev received any terror training while he was overseas, but it adds another piece to this evolving puzzle. >> that's the question they want to ask, what he was he doing overseize, he does have relatives in russia and he flew in and out of the country, back to kennedy airport, he flew out of new york on ja
think the point here is for that the obama administration, it is to cooperate with putin. there are four-party counterterrorism talks that happen between our intelligence service, their intelligence service, same with the fbi and sfb. that exchange at the tactical level is going to go on. politically, the administration is going to be careful they don't get caught in a tidal wave. >> let me go to richard engel for another thought. >> the worry is what happens next. look at the al qaeda web forums all day, they are celebrating what is going on in boston. they are talking about how much this is costing the city of boston, how americans are, quote, living in fear, how the city is under siege. they are absolutely thrilled by the images that have been on american televisions today. and there is a concern that this could lead to a copycat. someone who could be self-inspired and with a very small amount of expertise and small amount of money can have a very big impact. >> are they claiming any role? or any solidarity with the action or simply in the result? >> solidarity, certainly. there's bee
to the department of defense for the obama administration. jay, good to see you again, thank you very much for being with us. you have been involved in so many of these issues. we wanted to talk to you, about your take-away about enemy combatant. judicial decisions in a number of cases can you clarify how long can this exception from your wisdom last. is it the point the arrest. or the point of communication? >> well first of all, it's important to remember that any time dangerous criminal, suspect, is arrested for terrorist acts, our first impulse when that suspect is from a foreign land or is of a certain religion, should not be a reach for the military. the military is not the only answer here. and i warned about that in office, the possibility of over militarization of our common terrorism efforts, it's a whole government effort. second, the notion of designating the suspect as an enemy combatant, i'm not even sure is legal. in this situation. to be part of the enemy force in the congressionally authorized armed conflict from 2001, the suspect would need to be either part of al qaeda or an assoc
the obama administration changed the way the war is prosecuted. ordering the pentagon who stop using the term global war on terror. instead calling it an overseas contingency operation. the president's current cia director raised eyebrows when he declared jihad is not necessary lay bad thing. >> as americans, we refuse to live in feemplet nor do we describe our enemy as jihadists or islamists because jihad is a holy struggle a legitimate tenet of islam. >> our president says we have a war on al qaeda not a war on terror. >> that's ridiculous. this is ideologically based war which ideology that unfortunately emerges from a religion. >> critics say it comes down to semantics whether the administration considers this a war, involving enemy combatants or a law enforcement challenge. bret? >> bret: jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. thank you. much more on all of this with the panel tonight, an expanded panel. president obama will attend a memorial service thursday for the victims of the west texas fertilizer plant explosion. 14 people were killed in last week's blast and dozens more
years ago the obama administration said the war on terror was basically over. >> how you define a problem shapes how you address it. as many have noted, the presidents does not describe this as pa war on terrorism. that is because terrorism is but a tactic. a means to an end. >> and how does the establishment media see the boston terror attack? well, listen to bob woodward. >> the boston event, obviously a serious tragedy. but i don't know that it's going to go down in the history books. the question it is not necessarily that big of an event. >> tell that to the guy who lost both his legs. well, in minnesota, democratic congressman keith ellison who is muslim sees the boston attack this way. >> all these cases where you see acts of radicalized individuals using violence, they may have a religious affiliation but oftentimes when they give reasons for why they did what they did, it is politics. and who knows what these individuals' motivation may be. it probably has to do with politics rather than religion. let's not cast a wide net and go after a whole religious group. >> do tho
committee leaders are pressing the obama administration for more information on how it plans to furlough air traffic controllers and close contract towers, and how it would affect public safety. there is a quote from senate commerce committee chairman jay rockefeller. he said we are faced with substantial possible disruptions to the air transportation system. what is your may know concern? obviously jobs. as far as public safety, are there questions that are lingering right now? >> we're comfortable on safety because safety won't be compromised. certainly by our member airlines. what we're concerned about is the lack of transparency in the faa process that doesn't give us information and did not give us information upon which we could plan. more importantly, the greatest concern is, these furloughs are unnecessary. they're unwise. and we believe they are illegal. never in the history, in our history have air traffic controllers been furloughed. the reason is simple. they not only keep the air space safe. they keep it moving. that is a matter for commerce, business travelers, leisure traveler
issues during the obama administration more than any other current member of purpose. the reason is twofold. one is that senator baucus is the chair of the finance committee, arguably the most powerful committee in the senate. the finance committee, quote, helps dictate how the government raises almost all of its money and spends nearly half of it. the other quality that makes max baucus such a ripe target for lobbying and people with an in to him so valuable is he is not an idealogue. say what you want he is in the center kind of. there is a tool political scientists use to score where lawmakers land on the left/right spectrum. with senators ranked in the 112 itth congress with number one being most liberal baucus landed at 45. only a handful of democrats ranked more conservative. here is max baucus occupying the lonelily and quickly evaporating center of american politics we all pine for, the center we all lament the vanishing of. the problem we all say in washington is we have these extremes, the left and the right, and they can't get together. here is max baucus in the center
to handle him as what they describe as an enemy combat talent. the obama administration doesn't use that term anymore it allows for an indefinite detention of someone under national security concerns. that's what they are hoping for. we will see what the justice department decides, they haven't yet. but certainly, this issue will find its way to washington. there are various house and senate committees that have already said they plan to investigate exactly issues leading up to this explosion and then the subsequent manhunt and investigation and surely those concerned about how the administration handles him in the coming days. no surprise that this group has already said that they would like this because they say frankly, this is what it's for. you find a terrorist on u.s. soil, this is how they should be treated. democrats this after the into, some have already turned around and said, look, the administration is doing just fine on this, this san american citizen, he has to be afforded his rights, the justice department is acting a i appropriate. >> adrian, our pete williams is rep
disagree with the obama's administration decision to rule out enemy combatant suspect. >> reporter: labeling him as an enemy combatant would allow the government to question him without an attorney president and maybe get some of those answers. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> thanks, barbara. most of us can't even begin to imagine the incredibly tense moments that led up to the arrest of dzhokhar cztsarnaev. but that's what they are trained to do. the s.w.a.t team that took tsarnaev into custody describes the final moments to anderson cooper. let's listen. >> let's do it. let's do what we're trained to do. this is the suspect. we're trained to go in and apprehend him. you can see one hand is clear of any weapons each time he went the other way, his hand went down inside the boat out of our view. i know everybody here we've spoken about it. each time he did that, we had to assume he was reaching for either a weapon, a firearm or some explosive ignition device to kind of draw us in and take us out in a suicide type manner. he did that a couple of times as we're still approaching
the obama administration will allow us that and they have a bad track record. >> and this is not the course the administration will take. they will take reading him his rights after national security exception has run out and prosecuting him in a federal court as well. >> molly: thank you. >> megyn: more breaking news. news reporting that federal charges have now been filed against the surviving suspect. though they are reportedly being filed under seal. that means we don't get to see them. they will have to let it's know what the charges are but perhaps not all the supporting information. in a case of this magnitude there is no way they are going to keep the charges private and not public. in other words, what exactly has he been charged with? a terrorist act, using weapons of mass destruction? these were all on the potential list of charges. so we'll try to get more on what they plan to release to the general public in terms of what they say this man on your screen is actually guilty of according to our federal prosecutors. also, new reaction from the white house about the bombing investi
? >> fundamental question, is this an international terrorism investigation, and did the obama administration know something about these two men back as far back as 2011. what we now know is that the fbi at the request of another country, no one is saying it's russia, at the request of another country looked into the activities of the older brother. there was concern that another country expressed about him. the fbi issuing a statement last night about all of that, and saying in part, and let me read it, "the request stated it was based on information that he, the older brother, was a follower of radical islam and a strong believer, and that he had changed drastically since 2010, as he prepared to leave the united states for travel to the country's region to join unspecified underground groups." we don't know that this request to look into him came from russia, but now russian president vladimir putin today saying he wants some cooperation obviously with u.s. investigators. the u.s. intelligence community, the fbi, the cia now going back through everything they have, trying to see if there were, i
that time against him in a federal courtroom. >> put yourself in the shoes of the obama administration. they want to know as much as they can about how this happened so as to not make -- make sure it doesn't happen again. if he lawyers up, if he is read his miranda rights, he probably will be advised not to cooperate and not to say anything. isn't it just to play devil's advocate in the best interests of the nation to withhold on doing that for a second and gets a much information as they can? >> well, it's a very tough decision, but really the exception they're using is the public safety exception and that's to protect the rest of us, to make sure there aren't any accomplices, any other direct and immediate threats. but after that, it is in the interests of the country to be able to ross cuku prosecute him public courtroom and have people understand what happened. so it is important for the administration and justice department and fbi to give him hir miranda right so is they can use all the evidence against him. there will be many victims and survivors who feel it is important to hav
. the legalization if you're an american and overseas and participating -- >> the obama administration has used this legal argument to justify their drone attacks. it's not unfamiliar to them. >> about a year ago or so, the nypd came under fire for some listening in this -- using surveillance techniques on certain groups. >> in new jersey. >> in new jersey. >> right. >> there was a thing going back and forth between new york, new jersey, whether they were allowed to do this or not. with all this going on, aren't we making the case for more of that rather than less of that? >> yeah, we have to do more of it. it's very uncomfortable. it's very -- none of us want to give up any of our privacy, understandable. the reality is this is how you stop them. this is the only way you have to stop them. that is getting the information in advance. they're doing everything they can to hide what they're doing. law enforcement, intelligence agencies, they have to be able to do everything they can to intrude into them to find out what they're doing. >> mayor, as far as i can tell, we knew about nidal malik hasan
agreement. >> reporter: gonzalez suspects what may be happening now is in the obama administration is a quote, interagency scrum where some are pushing for a quick mirandizing. others may be advocating a delay so as much information as possible can be garnered, martha. martha: no doubt there is big discussion going on either way. the older brothers trip to chechnya in 2011 is getting a lot of attention. what can we learn about that, doug? >> reporter: we learned a bait of new information about that when the fbi tried to trace the elder tsnaraev's trip to russia and chechnya, the trail went cold for the most mundane much reasons. listen up. >> he went over to russia butp a parently when he got on the aeroflot plane, they misspelled his name so it never went into the system that he actually went to russia. >> reporter: others suggested they got all the radical indock operation -- indoctrination around the block from their boston home. >> you can point to radical imams here and there they put on their facebook pages. you about the fact they lived a few blocks away from a very controve
rights. >> first of all, i to give kudos for calling it an act of terrorism to the obama administration like they called hassan workplace violence. bottom line, if they don't want to use the statements a this guy makes in a criminal prosecution, they can ask him questions all day long without murnd. they can do it after he gets a lawyer as long as a clean team, a team that is is not involved in the criminal prosecution goes in and asks intelligence related questions that is separated by an ethical wall that is pretty from the criminal prosecution, it's all good. >> megyn: miranda protects you from the prosecutor but it didn't protect you some intel person, we want more answers. >> that is exactly right. somebody may think, if he has lawyer how can some task force ask him questions. the bottom line is they are not prevented from asking him questions that is usinged in capacities other than criminal prosecution. he. >> megyn: he is not required to answer. he has lawyered up. he is represented by the public defenders office out of boston. i think the guy's name is william thicke and they s
they want to. >> this is a matter of policy under the bush and especially the obama administration, connecting jihad holy war and islamists who embrace it and believe it is their god-directed obligation to engage in it with the attacks or terrorism we are supposed to be defending ourselves against has been impermissible. this is crazy and it has created, i think, vulnerabilities as has frankly the lessening of the engagement of the public in this war. you have been talking about it all morning the public helped enormously once those pictures wept up. it's very much the case that we need to have the public on the case all the time. it's kind of a question of are we on a war footing in the face of this jihadist threat. this global jihadist threat or aren't we? unless and until we are, i think we will wind up having a lot moornd worse of these kind of attacks. >> brian: do you believe there are other people involved with these two? >> there were other people involved certainly in providing, i suspect, freezing rain structure, training and support. we need to find them, too. >> brian:
to determine the exact cause of the fire. the obama administration is trying to figure out what if anything it can now do about gun control. the senate gutted legislation that would have approved background checks. four democrats joined republicans in blocking the bill, afterwards an infuriated president obama spoke and described it as a shameful day in washington. in boston today the fbi is considering a possible photo and video release of a person they believe is connected to the marathon bombings on monday. the video was taken by surveillance camera near a lord & taylor store. investigators are debating the benefits and drawbacks of releasing materials to the public. the death toll stands at three dead more than 150 injured. ten remain in critical condition, and media critics are hammering several news organization who wrongly reported that a suspect had been arrested. cnn in addition to the erroneous report that somebody had been arrested also got the man's skin color wrong. no explanation from cnn. stephanie? >> stephanie: david -- >> actually am i supposed to pit
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